n.b., Daryn has been a dear friend and professional colleague for so long now that I honestly have no idea when or where I met her, but I do know that I absolutely adore her.

1:20:19 AM Daryn Pacciotti: when I get to dc
1:20:24 AM Daryn Pacciotti: if you have not plucked the unibrow
1:20:29 AM Daryn Pacciotti: I am going to do it myself
1:20:32 AM Dheeraj Chand: HA!
1:20:45 AM Dheeraj Chand: May I quote you on that?
1:20:48 AM Daryn Pacciotti: yes
1:20:50 AM Daryn Pacciotti: yes you may
1:20:56 AM Dheeraj Chand: You feel strongly on this subject.
1:21:06 AM Daryn Pacciotti: yep.
1:21:17 AM Daryn Pacciotti: I am very passionate about eyebrows.
1:21:25 AM Dheeraj Chand: http://dheerajchand.com/pictures/v/random/DSCI0002_001.JPG.html
1:21:27 AM Dheeraj Chand: Why is that?
1:21:44 AM Daryn Pacciotti: because eyebrows are the hallmark of a face
1:21:52 AM Daryn Pacciotti: when done well, they shape and flatter
1:22:04 AM Daryn Pacciotti: when done poorly, or let alone, they can take alot away
1:22:23 AM Dheeraj Chand: And you don't think that my singular eyebrow symbolizes the integration of the many knowledges, talents and skills that I have into one holistic entity?
1:22:25 AM Daryn Pacciotti: I had giant ugly caterpillars for years.
1:22:28 AM Daryn Pacciotti: no
1:22:30 AM Daryn Pacciotti: I dont
1:22:43 AM Dheeraj Chand: I think that it captures the essence of me.
1:22:45 AM Dheeraj Chand: I love my eyebrow.
1:22:49 AM Daryn Pacciotti: I think your eyebrow makes you look like someone who needs to find a nice waxer
1:23:26 AM Dheeraj Chand: I think that my eyebrow is proof positive that is possible to like nice neckties and not be a total metrosexual douchebag.
1:24:50 AM Dheeraj Chand: (Ooooh, respond to that.)
1:25:09 AM Daryn Pacciotti: I think your eyebrow is a strong deterrent from chatting up women.
1:25:22 AM Dheeraj Chand: I have empirical evidence to the contrary.
1:25:34 AM Daryn Pacciotti: you honestly have women say they like the unibrow?
1:25:37 AM Dheeraj Chand: Your argument is essentially a counterfactual.
1:25:51 AM Dheeraj Chand: Your claim is that should I have two eyebrows, I would do better with women than I do now.
1:26:02 AM Daryn Pacciotti: my question remains
1:26:13 AM Daryn Pacciotti: have you ever had a woman say she likes the unibrow?
1:26:17 AM Dheeraj Chand: And, moreover, that should I have had two eyebrows 'til now, I would have done better 'til now.
1:26:22 AM Dheeraj Chand: No.
1:26:27 AM Dheeraj Chand: I have also had no complaints in over a year.
1:26:32 AM Daryn Pacciotti: ROFLMAO
1:26:37 AM Daryn Pacciotti: this is why I love you deeraj
1:26:44 AM Daryn Pacciotti: so smart and yet so not smart
1:26:53 AM Dheeraj Chand: I rule all that I may surveille.
1:27:06 AM Daryn Pacciotti: you just tell yourself that, darlin'
1:27:09 AM Dheeraj Chand: Okay, the last time that I had complaints was when I lived with my family.
1:27:15 AM Dheeraj Chand: My mother and sister would go ballistic over it.
1:27:26 AM Dheeraj Chand: And prior to that, my fiance was determined to kill it.
1:27:32 AM Dheeraj Chand: She would pluck it in my sleep.
1:27:36 AM Dheeraj Chand: How crazy is that?
1:27:41 AM Daryn Pacciotti: hmm
1:27:43 AM Daryn Pacciotti: so essentially
1:27:51 AM Daryn Pacciotti: three other women have the same reaction I do
1:27:57 AM Daryn Pacciotti: and none have said they actually like it
1:27:57 AM Dheeraj Chand: Three out of hundreds.
1:27:59 AM Daryn Pacciotti: and yet
1:28:48 AM Dheeraj Chand: I've been told that I'm rather handsome, you know, by numerous women.
1:28:53 AM Dheeraj Chand: One even used the word, "hot."
1:29:02 AM Daryn Pacciotti: you perceive silence to be some sort of tacit approval, kind of like a debate round, when in fact it really is that most women avoid such rude confrontations such as telling someone 'btw that unibrow is seriously fucking annoying'
1:29:04 AM Daryn Pacciotti: ahhh
1:29:10 AM Daryn Pacciotti: but I didnt say YOU were unattractive
1:29:37 AM Daryn Pacciotti: I said the brow was unattractive, which implies that, were you to get rid of the eyebrow, you would be able to be MORE attractive
1:29:43 AM Dheeraj Chand: So once again, we're back to the fact that you are proposing a counterfactual, which, definitionally, is not only neither true nor false, but, moreover, unverifiable.
1:29:52 AM Dheeraj Chand: Counterfactuals lack truth-values.
1:30:03 AM Dheeraj Chand: Seriously.
1:30:05 AM Daryn Pacciotti: fine, deeraj, live in your dream world
1:30:08 AM Dheeraj Chand: Ask Donald Lewis.
1:30:15 AM Dheeraj Chand: He's written books about this.
1:30:42 AM Dheeraj Chand: "If the present king of France were to declare war on Israel, what would Bohemia do?" is not a well formed question, and as such, has no truth value.
1:30:58 AM Dheeraj Chand: From a false premise, anything is true. It's called "vacuous truth."
1:31:07 AM Dheeraj Chand: (I made straight A's in logic.)
1:32:12 AM Daryn Pacciotti: logic is a system, not a reality. the world is much more complicated than logic, and if you persist to believe that everything in the world can be reduced to a logical mindframe, then you know, have fun.  but personally, I just roll my eyes.
1:32:54 AM Dheeraj Chand: Nice copout.
1:33:02 AM Dheeraj Chand: Logic is the fundamental structure to which all propositions reduce.
1:33:15 AM Dheeraj Chand: And I'm arguing for a robust notion of Logic, including modal.
1:33:46 AM Dheeraj Chand: You can make a modal counterfactual argument, I suppose, but that's just kind of lame.
1:34:04 AM Daryn Pacciotti: see the fundamental difference between us, deeraj, is that you think you're smarter than me because you know more about logic and philosophy.  and I just think its funny.
1:34:34 AM Dheeraj Chand: But, in the interest of good LD/CX relations, I'll allow the plucking. :)
1:34:36 AM Dheeraj Chand: No, not at all.
1:34:44 AM Daryn Pacciotti: I mean there is no level of implied patronisation which will ever actually make me feel like I ought to go out and read these things
1:35:33 AM Daryn Pacciotti: hehe I didnt realize we were now the ultimate representatives of the high school debate community
1:36:05 AM Daryn Pacciotti: or that debate had anything to do with superficial value judgements (although I think people are not trying to run Adorno.. poorly)
1:36:44 AM Dheeraj Chand: Hang on, I just received a drunk dial.
1:36:50 AM Daryn Pacciotti: ahaha awesome
1:38:53 AM Daryn Pacciotti: okay, well theres a copter about to fucking land on our apartment complex
1:39:03 AM Daryn Pacciotti: so if I just stop typing, call the police
Daryn Pacciotti disconnected (1:49:55 AM)
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